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Soggy Gut Bomb

That was the name someone gave to white bread on another forum :-)

 

It is almost tasteless

Makes me fat, bloated and tired

Contains little nutrition

Is hard to digest

So......

 

Why am I addicted to it?????????

 

The last three weeks have been terrible. I lost half a stone, then the Soggy Gut Bomb Monster came to get me and it's all back on in a few days. The cravings are completely overwhelming and I cannot resist them becasue it causes too much discomfort and mental obssession, and I can't deal with all that when I am on a big project and very busy.

 

I have tried crackers, sprouted wheat bread, spelt, etc etc etc. To substitute something else is like saying to a heroin addict 'have you tried strong coffee instead? I find it really gives me a buzz'.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by chloe sabine singer on March 13, 2011 at 15:14

Jane  if you bought yourself a bread machine and made your own home made spelt bread you would be so much better off.

 At least you would know whats in it!

My boyfriend is addicted to white bread too, and despite the exact same (and more indelicate! :~O ) symptoms he occasionally persists in "oh pick us up a french stick would you" and then the results are the same. The toxins in modern very rubbish bread are just horrendous, thanks to high speed bread making techniques. Old style bread was risen properly and really was "the staff of life" if you look up the book "bread matters" the author is absolutely passionate about well made bread. We as a couple prefer bread to potatoes as my boyfriend is sensitive to potatoes and even more so now he is higher raw, it seems to have accentuated all of our intolerances. I have given up alcohol since last July, totally, and mostly given up refined sugar,(my real addiction) and find I get high as a kite on even a tiny bit of sugar and also feel more dreadful and sugar has the same effect on me as white bread does on you! So he makes the bread, he began with a bread machine, now he makes it in a kenwood chef and  makes easy to digest fantastic white and whole spelt breads, it may or may not work for you. Its also quick and easy. It works for us in transitioning to more raw I/we may ultimately give it up but we are in our first year of changing form high fat/processed and sugar vegans too so we are making good progress- I have lost 3 stone since this time last year,he's lost 2 and a half, some friends who are rather less healthy have gone from jeering a bit to increasing their own raw food intake - which I find wacky, but heartening . Bread machines are probably easy to find second hand as people buy them and then dont use them. Boyfriend chipped in - spelt bread is not hard to make by hand . I actually find the mass consumption of flax seed raw crackers makes me feel ill so I would rather eat a small amount of homemade bread, and eat with my giant salads, ensuring I get some cold pressed oil like Udo's Oil to get my omegas in my fruit smoothie in the morning. You have my sympathies, I struggle the same way with sugar and find it very very hard to give up totally. Nonetheless I am also in a family where cancer has killed family members, and nearly killed my mother and sister, boyfriends mum died of bowel/liver cancer 3 years ago, despite her originally bleak prognosis she still got 4 more years by increasing her raw food intake. My point is "sugar and white bread increase/grow tumours" words from my sister oncologist I believe. I keep my white spelt to hardly any and soon I will be learning to do raw desserts efficiently as I love the creativity and challenge of it all. Good luck honey and heres to high energy and good health xxxx Chloe

Permalink Reply by Jane Round on May 6, 2011 at 9:48

 

Thanks Chloe, that makes a lot of sense.

I do aim for the best bread possible - mainly buying reduced fab stuff from waitrose and freezing it. I used to make bread but it goes through phases where I can't be bothered. The second hand bread machine is a very good idea. I didn't know you could get white spelt - where do you find that?

I have dared to listen to 'Durainriders' on youtube this week; he is very hard core 80/10/10 which I have always steered away from, but I must say, he is talking a lot of sense. He thinks there is absolutely no such thing and food addiction and emotional eating and that all cravings and so called 'binges' are down to not having enough good carbs and glucose in our system. I have upped the amount of bananas and dates I am eating and notice the bread cravings aren't as intense.

I wonder if I am still eating enough; I can't get the hang of just how much raw food and fruit I need to pack in to match the calories of the stuff I used to eat. I have lost no weight at all on raw (want to lose a stone to be the weight I was before I got ill with cfs) and I think this is because by 8pm I am starving and no amount of lettuce is going to satisfy me so I end up with crackers or crisps.

I did lose some weight last year and I remember I was eating MORE and feeling good, but the mind set that has been drilled into us our whole lives is eat less so you don't get big. It's refreshing to hear Durianrider's view of the dangers of under-eating when so much of the raw food movement promotes calorie restriction as the way to health and vitality. I have never been a fan of deprivation.

What I have been doing lately is just accepting it as part of me and eating it when i want and having plenty of good stuff too. I think your idea of a bit of nice bread instead of a ton of flax crackers is a good one too. I have heard a few raw fooders brave enough to say that a bit of cooked veg or wheat free pasta is better than a huge meal of nuts and oils in the evening.

I think I am going to go back to wheat free pasta and get myself feeling more satiated in the evenings; I do like heavy food as it's what I grew up on and I quite like feeling full. I need to find some balance and equilibrium again as trying to be more raw than I am ready for is making my eating very erratic.

Appreciate the response, thank you

Jane

Permalink Reply by Jane Round on April 25, 2011 at 20:14

erm........could have sworn I had replied to this.............must have dreamt it

I'll get back soon

Thanks

Jane

Permalink Reply by chloe sabine singer on May 7, 2011 at 14:52
Sorry Jane I was being a silly numpty - I need to learn to scroll!! Boyfriend is commenting that brown rice is great too which we eat regularly also he says ease up on the condiments ( I dont hehe) salt and pepper soy stimulate the appetite! You are on the right track with banana eating, a morning fave for us is fruit stew- whizz up 3 bananas strawberries lime juice water etc, chop fruit of choice nice to include strawberries and banans too into a huge soup bowl tip the "soup" over, sprinkle with raw cacao powder and a few almonds or a few nuts of choice- very very filling...If you then crave a little toast mid morning, you have already had a really good nutritional boost so it feel less bad.. x
Permalink Reply by Susan on May 4, 2011 at 16:58

Dont be so hard on yourself, it took me 5 years to kick coffee and im now in my 2nd year with bread, so itll take a little time.

 

if you feel bad take some probiotics, not ideal but a solutions till you kick the habit.

 

at one of David Wolfes show in london he said that the french word for bread is pain!!!

Permalink Reply by Jane Round on May 6, 2011 at 9:50

Yes, not going to beat myself any more.

I have very little digestive issues with bread, just a slight bloated feeling but noting much - I just think it's making me fat and a bit sluggish!

Permalink Reply by Jon on May 4, 2011 at 22:59
Yep, for years I suffered with white bread (and pasta) and never knew why. I used to have a terrible time some days, then rushed trips (many a day) to the loo.

It just tastes good, that's the problem. All sugar really!
Permalink Reply by Jane Round on May 6, 2011 at 9:52
"I suffered with white bread and pasta" that made me laugh - really got it firmly in the 'disease' bracket there - which is how it feels at times!
Permalink Reply by Jon on May 6, 2011 at 12:52
That is how it used to feel. Some days I felt really tired, lethargic, not wanting to do anything. Then when I was suffering IBS I would feel terrible, sometimes even feverish. Then the toilet issues..... all together, definitely a disease!
Permalink Reply by Susan on May 6, 2011 at 12:58
what about nutrition, is you food nutritionally dense? i found that was a key for me
Permalink Reply by chloe sabine singer on May 7, 2011 at 14:39

Agree Susan nutritional density is key it seems ( I am a learner here) but white flour is just awful, and I do succumb from time to time, but it's never a good result- ibs,headaches,running to the loo, prevention/abstention is so much better than cure, and if bread is craved...its not hard to make really... and made with less  aggravating flours. I dont eat white pasta at all any more and as a learner I am no purist..there are so many alternatives now.

My personal problem is sugar addiction, as I have said quite a lot.. x

 

Permalink Reply by Susan on May 13, 2011 at 13:55

have you tried stevia?

 

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